Frequently Asked Questions - Queen's-Trent Concurrent Education
Are the course requirements for the Con Ed Program different than the requirements for my Arts and Science degree?
- Yes, the requirements for each degree are different.
- You are enrolled in two universities: the Faculty of Education at Queen’s AND the Faculty of Arts and Science at Trent.
- You are completing two different degrees at the same time, a Bachelor of Education degree AND a Bachelor of Arts or Science Honours degree from Trent.
- Your Trent Arts and Science degree consists of your undergrad courses like CHEM 1000H, or ENGL 1000Y. Your Education degree consists of PROF and PRAC courses in Years 1-3, and in Final Year CURR, FOCI, EDST, FOUN and also PROF and PRAC courses.
What are the differences between Years 1-3 and Final Year in Con Ed? In
Years 1-3 you:
- Work on your Arts or Science degree.
- Take Education Professional Studies (PROF) courses and Experiences in Schools (PRAC) courses (your teaching placements).
- Work on fulfilling the requirements to enter the Final Year Con Ed Program (Bachelor of Education year).
In
Final Year you will:
- Have completed all of the requirements to attend Final Year.
- Have requested to attend Final Year Education (by responding to the Final Year Education Questionnaire which is sent to all Year 3 and 4 Con Ed students in November, due in January).
- Have graduated from your Trent Arts or Science degree in the spring prior to attending Final Year Con Ed in the fall.
- Complete the BEd year (Education courses and multiple-week Practicum placements) at the Faculty of Education.
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How long does it take to complete BOTH the Con Ed degree AND the Arts, Science, Computing or Music degree?
- It usually takes 5 years.
- Undergraduate degree programs (Arts or Science degrees) are usually completed in four years, and the BED is always completed in one year.
- You may complete your undergraduate degree (Arts or Science degrees) in five years (and some even complete it in three).
- Con Ed students are expected to complete both degrees within six years.
TYPICAL:
- 4 years to complete a 20-credit Trent Honours Arts or Science degree .
- 1 year at Queen's in Kingston to finish Bachelor of Education (Final Year Con Ed).
- TOTAL 5 years to complete both degrees.
EXTENDED:
- 5 years to complete a 20-credit Trent Honours Arts or Science degree.
- 1 year at Queen's in Kingston to finish Bachelor of Education (Final Year Con Ed).
- TOTAL 6 years to complete both degrees.
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I plan to start Final Year Education in this coming Fall term. When do I need to complete all of my Final Year Con Ed requirements?
Candidates planning to enter Final Year Education at Queen’s in the fall of 2012 must:
- Successfully complete all prerequisites courses by the second Friday in May 2012.
- Graduate in the spring of 2012.
- If you completed all of your courses at Trent, you do not need to send an official transcript from Trent to the Queen's Faculty of Education. The Queen's-Trent office will print your Trent transcript and verify that you graduated in the spring 2012 convocation from your Trent Honours Arts or Science undergraduate degree.
How do I check my final marks for Queen’s courses?
In
SOLUS, in the ‘other academic’ drop down menu, choose either:
- Course History, or
- View Unofficial Transcript.
How does the grading system work for my Education courses?
The Faculty of Education grading system is outlined in the
Faculty of Education Calendar.
The Trent
Faculty of Arts and Science uses a grading system that is different from the Faculty of Education.
When do final marks (grades) show on SOLUS?
The University Registrar’s Office website gives the currently available release date for your marks. Typically it is in January for fall half-courses and in May for winter half-courses or fall/winter courses.
When should I contact the Queen's-Trent Concurrent Education Program Administrator?
- When you fail an Education course, so you know your options and our faculty’s policy for requesting to retake this course.
- When you are placed on academic probation by the Faculty of Arts and Science at Trent, so you can receive academic advising about how this will affect your progression in the Queen's-Trent Con Ed Program.
- To request to change your program options (division – PJ or IS).
- To request to change your teaching subjects (for students in Intermediate-Senior).
- To ask permission to take a PROF or PRAC course in a year other than intended.
- To request permission to take a one year leave of absence from the Con Ed Program.
- To confirm return from a one year leave of absence to the Con Ed Program.
- In Year 4, to make a request to defer Final Year Con Ed for one academic year.
- If you decide to withdraw from the Con Ed program.
- When you want to take an Arts and Science course from another university.
- When you want to take a course that is not listed in the Teacher Candidate Guide or Academic Calendar to satisfy any of the requirements for the Con Ed Program. You must ensure that the course is approved by the Faculty of Education Office and will satisfy the requirement that you intended.
- To clarify that you are taking the correct courses to satisfy the requirements for the Con Ed Program (please check the teaching subject charts in the Academic Calendar first).
Can I qualify to teach all divisions (Primary, Junior, Intermediate and Senior)?
- You may only be certified in two divisions while you are in the Concurrent BEd program (Primary and Junior, or Intermediate and Senior).
- Any additional division certifications are taken as Additional Basic Qualification (ABQ) courses after you already have your BEd.
- All information about ABQs offered at Queen's can be found on the Continuing Teacher Education website.
- If you qualify in IS first, then you will only need two ABQs, Primary ABQ and Junior ABQ.
- If you qualify in PJ first, then to be qualified to teach both Intermediate and Senior in two subject areas (which is the equivalent of what you could teach if you took IS in Con Ed), you will need to take FOUR ABQ courses.
- You must take at least two courses in the desired subject area in your undergrad to qualify to take an ABQ in Intermediate or Senior (check specific requirements for each course).
- ABQ courses usually last one academic term and cost around $700.
When do I take PROF 180?
PROF 180 used to be offered in third year but is now only offered in Final Year.
How do I get Visual Arts as a Teaching Subject at Queen's?
- Review the Visual Arts teaching subject chart.
- Find a course somewhere else that has the same number of units and covers painting.
- Check with the Queen’s-Trent Concurrent Education office to make sure the institution is accredited (it has to be an accredited university, not a college) and that it will count towards your teaching subject requirements.
- If you want the course to count as part of your Trent degree, then apply to the Trent Registrar’s Office to get a Letter of Permission to take the class. When you have completed the class, send the original transcript to the Trent Registrar’s Office.
- If you are not counting the course towards your Trent degree, then once it is approved towards your teaching subject, you can take the class. When you have completed the class, send the original transcript to the Program Administrator at the Queen’s-Trent office.
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Can I get a third teaching subject?
- You may only be certified in two IS teaching subjects while you are in the Concurrent BEd program.
- Any additional teaching subjects are taken as Additional Basic Qualification (ABQ) courses after you already have your BEd.
- You must take at least two courses in the desired subject area in your undergrad to qualify to take an ABQ.
- ABQ courses usually last one academic term and cost around $700.
- All information about ABQs at Queen's can be found on the
Continuing Teacher Education website.
What’s the difference between “teachable” and “teaching subject”?
There is no difference; Queen's uses the term teaching subject.
If I choose PJ, can I major in anything I want?
- Yes. PJ students are not certified to teach specific subjects, so they do not have to take courses in those subjects to qualify for the Curriculum courses they will take in Final Year.
- PJ students are required to have a full year course in Introductory Psychology (PSYC 1020H and 1030H). This is the only required course.
- We RECOMMEND that PJ students take a half course in five different subject areas so they will be better prepared to teach (note these are recommended, not required):
- English
- The Arts (includes music, film, children’s literature, Shakespeare)
- Geography or Canadian History
- Science
- Math or Statistics
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Questions for Year One
How do I choose my Education courses?
Your Education courses will be preloaded for you. You may change sections during Open Enrolment. Registration instructions will be emailed to you the summer before you come to Trent. You will also be assigned a Queen’s student number.
How do I check which courses I am registered in?
- Click on the My.QueensU/SOLUS link at the bar on top of any Queen’s web page.
- Enter your NetID and password.
- Enter SOLUS by clicking on the SOLUS Student Center link (it’s either on your Home tab or the Palette tab).
- You will see ‘Welcome to SOLUS’ on your Student Center main page.
- Your current term schedule is displayed in a list.
- Click on “weekly schedule” beneath it to see it in a calendar view.
- To see another term, click on Class Schedule in the “other academic” drop-down menu.
- Click on your next term and will see a list of the next term’s classes, but you can’t see the calendar view for another term by clicking on Weekly Calendar View unless you change the date at the top to say, for example, 2012/01/09 for Winter 2012.
- To see all your courses, in the ‘Academics’ section, click on ‘other academics’ in the drop-down menu.
- Click on Course History. This lists all of your courses and marks. You can ‘Sort results by Term’ to see them in the order you took them.
How do I choose my Trent courses?
Attend the New Student Orientation session (usually late June). Detailed advice will be given on academic course selection and Trent’s myAcademicRecord system. Senior Tutors can also be contacted for advice on completing your Trent Honours Arts or Science degree requirements. Information will also be included in your summer package from the Queen’s-Trent Concurrent Education office or visit the website.
When do I choose my Divisions and Teaching Subjects?
- Your divisions (Intermediate-Senior or Primary-Junior) are chosen in the summer after first year. Each year we hold a Division Selection workshop in the spring to help you make an informed decision.
- If you choose Intermediate-Senior, you will also choose your two teaching subjects.
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Can I send emails from my Hotmail account?
- No, please don’t! Replies won’t always reach you because Hotmail often blocks Queen’s emails.
- You must send all questions and updates from your Trent email account.
- The Queen's-Trent office cannot act upon student requests (e.g. change your division level or teaching subjects) unless they are sent from a Trent email account.
- Always include your first name, last name and student number in email correspondence.
Where do I find information about course fees?
This information can be found on the
University Registrar’s website - Tuition & Fees. Information will also be sent to your from the Queen's-Trent office.
Can I be required to withdraw from Con Ed if I don’t keep my grades up?
- You have six years to complete both degrees.
- If you are placed on Academic Probation by Trent Arts & Science, you must suspend your PROF and PRAC courses until you are released from probation in Trent Arts & Science.
- If you are required to withdraw from Trent Arts & Science for one year, you may come back and finish the Con Ed program in enough time, as long as you can still get 20 credits in five years.
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All information is subject to change